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by Italian stallion
Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:23 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Letter ref FRC finances and fee increases. P? GORDEN.
Replies: 10
Views: 165

Re: Letter ref FRC finances and fee increases. P? GORDEN.

John, there has always been a mentally of the ostrich burying his head in the sand at FRC that doesn’t look like changing anytime soon, you know when someone is still using an army rank after leaving the forces tells you what they are I’ll leave that to your imagination. My uncle was a major but nev...
by Italian stallion
Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:23 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Letter ref FRC finances and fee increases. P? GORDEN.
Replies: 10
Views: 165

Re: Letter ref FRC finances and fee increases. P? GORDEN.

PNB, The problem starts at the heart of the so-called leadership at FRC, if you aren’t making a connection with the general public or farriers (the working craft) then you should take a step back and look at we’re your going wrong not keep charging forward like a bull in a china shop, if farriers em...
by Italian stallion
Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:36 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Letter ref FRC finances and fee increases. P? GORDEN.
Replies: 10
Views: 165

Re: Letter ref FRC finances and fee increases. P? GORDEN.

PNB, Yes the working farriers of the uk are at a loss at what the FRC are really for as when one asks a simple question there are never forthcoming with an answer, yet when they send out there little petty questionnaires you are told that failure to reply could get you in hole lot of trouble, it’s l...
by Italian stallion
Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:06 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Letter ref FRC finances and fee increases. P? GORDEN.
Replies: 10
Views: 165

Re: Letter ref FRC finances and fee increases. P? GORDEN.

You won’t be getting an answer any time soon, simply because the FRC don’t and won’t ever understand the meaning of the words honesty and transparency, yet they presumed that it’s correct to ask farrier to tow the line with there vast increasing demands and ludicrously revamped rules all to dam up t...
by Italian stallion
Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:20 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: frc FEES
Replies: 10
Views: 263

Re: frc FEES

Well in the interest of openess and transparency, would it not be prudent for FRC to let us farriers and the general public know exactly how much money's have been lost or paid out in compensation to other before they take it upon themselves to dig deep into farriers pockets by steeling more money o...
by Italian stallion
Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:21 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Role of elected members on FRC.
Replies: 2
Views: 286

Re: Role of elected members on FRC.

Pub, It must be disheartening to have listened to such a clown make outlandish statements like that, out of touch with the real world of farriers, that's what come of the poor soul not knowing how to polish his own shoes let alone understand anything related to farriers and there needs, it's a dam s...
by Italian stallion
Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:20 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Paul Gordons letter to farriers
Replies: 68
Views: 2298

Re: Paul Gordons letter to farriers

Surely if the chairman is not running an adurly committee, how on earth does someone record the minutes with such a shambolic meeting, he needs telling in simple terms he's not up to the job, my question is are these a free for all or is there some semblance of order and is the chair taking question...
by Italian stallion
Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:30 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Paul Gordons letter to farriers
Replies: 68
Views: 2298

Re: Paul Gordons letter to farriers

We live in a democratic country (supposedly) now just because something's are the norm, there's no reason why one shouldn't ask questions. We are correct in wishing to seek a fair balance on any committee as far as a 50/50 goes. The WCF has historically loaded these committees in there favour, so wh...
by Italian stallion
Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:14 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Paul Gordons letter to farriers
Replies: 68
Views: 2298

Re: Paul Gordons letter to farriers

Well I've logged my concerns about the WCF charitable trust with the charities commission and what a very helpful sevice they provide, open and transparent as things should be.
by Italian stallion
Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:44 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Paul Gordons letter to farriers
Replies: 68
Views: 2298

Re: Paul Gordons letter to farriers

John I rather leave you trivial advice behind me and take the advice of my daughter that's head of finance for a large charity who has told me it relevant to inform the charities commission, I really do believe you are spending to much time sucking up to them stoneliegh boys.
by Italian stallion
Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:17 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Paul Gordons letter to farriers
Replies: 68
Views: 2298

Re: Paul Gordons letter to farriers

csc, I take your point but that's not right, I will write to the charity's commission and inform then of such goings on, I will contact the farrier concerned as there's a case to answer here weather you or I like it not.

Regards.
by Italian stallion
Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:50 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Paul Gordons letter to farriers
Replies: 68
Views: 2298

Re: Paul Gordons letter to farriers

Well I'm flabbergasted, paragraph 2of that statement from WCF states that they have used the charitable trust money to bail out the DWCF exams if there was a short fall, that's paying themselves from the charitable trust, is this not a misappropriation of trust funds, considering some years ago a fa...
by Italian stallion
Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:19 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: COMMITTEE ON STANDARDS IN PUBLIC LIFE
Replies: 3
Views: 346

Re: COMMITTEE ON STANDARDS IN PUBLIC LIFE

This has made for some very interesting reading, running through the governance and code of conduct I can see that FRC have never adopted any of that text into the running of FRC, in fact what they have been doing is breaking the law, god I would love the chance to debate that at council, simply bec...
by Italian stallion
Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:27 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Preamble to meeting with minister at DEFRA.
Replies: 16
Views: 799

Re: Preamble to meeting with minister at DEFRA.

John, It makes no difference if you have a degree or you happen to be a rocket scientist, if relevant information is withheld from members of council how does one debate anything, you for one know all to well that FRC are famous for there pre-debates and the outcome is as they expected always in the...
by Italian stallion
Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:53 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Preamble to meeting with minister at DEFRA.
Replies: 16
Views: 799

Re: Preamble to meeting with minister at DEFRA.

John, Even you should surely tip your cap to these men for there efforts in brining this into the public domain. Thee FRC are not keeping anyone in the loop even council members, they find it nessesery to decife anyone that might object in the interest of the working farrier. The balance at meetings...
by Italian stallion
Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:08 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Preamble to meeting with minister at DEFRA.
Replies: 16
Views: 799

Re: Preamble to meeting with minister at DEFRA.

Firstly, l would like to take this opportunity to thank you gentleman for your hard work considering your lack of information that has been withheld by the FRC/WCF, it blatantly goes to show farriers there failing in the welfare of the horse and farrier, they are outdated and out of touch with what ...
by Italian stallion
Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:00 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: pay for your failings
Replies: 3
Views: 337

Re: pay for your failings

This being the case, I should retire and then subcontract a few unregistered lads to crack on with shoeing horses for me, what could be better feet up and a few quid for doling nowt.
by Italian stallion
Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:40 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: "the British system doesn't work"
Replies: 23
Views: 6717

Re: "the British system doesn't work"

Hi there George, I looked at that school and it reminds me of the deluded bunch of fools that run FRC, clueless to put it mildly, it's unfortunate that we always land up with people that no nothing about our craft let alone running it for an office with air/con, they tell me pushing a pen all day an...
by Italian stallion
Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:11 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FARRIERS MEETING 23RD
Replies: 19
Views: 1334

Re: FARRIERS MEETING 23RD

Pnb, Im sorry I've not been on the forum, but it's something of a slap in the face to working farriers to increase the registration fee to £200 simply because of FRC mismanagement of there finances, they know full well if they are challenged in the law courts they need money to defend themselves, la...
by Italian stallion
Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:45 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Cautions & Convictions Notifications Eorm
Replies: 19
Views: 1486

Re: Cautions & Convictions Notifications Eorm

Pub,
The registra thinks he's still in tha arm forces and can line up 2800 farriers and bark orders at them, I've got news for him there's more chance of them giving him a kick up the arse.

The man should resign before he destroys farriery altogether.
by Italian stallion
Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:38 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Are Frc for purpose
Replies: 126
Views: 10374

Re: Are Frc for purpose

That should read the farriers bulletin in the above post.
by Italian stallion
Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:04 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Are Frc for purpose
Replies: 126
Views: 10374

Re: Are Frc for purpose

Somebody has made you out to look real stupid Chris, as that meeting went ahead as posted in forge mag, when you were telling us it had been cancelled.

You need some reliable source as it looks like someone has taken you up the garden path.

Regards.
by Italian stallion
Wed May 04, 2016 8:02 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Are Frc for purpose
Replies: 126
Views: 10374

Re: Are Frc for purpose

Pnb, is correct we farriers has little say whilst FRC exists they don't include farriers, they simply do as the WCF dictate, that has always been the case. BFBA do there best, at the end of the day all should be included in any talks, however we on the forum have been excluded regardless of our view...
by Italian stallion
Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:22 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Are Frc for purpose
Replies: 126
Views: 10374

Re: Are Frc for purpose

Dear me Chris, Your reply sound like being president at BFBA is to much for you, lies well let's start with good old Huw Dyre on council says his little bit then abstained from voting,( does chocolate fire guard ring a bell ) knowing fell well the chair has the casting vote, and he's there to repsen...
by Italian stallion
Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:10 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Are Frc for purpose
Replies: 126
Views: 10374

Re: Are Frc for purpose

John, I wouldn't hold your hopes out for a good turnout,BFBA are inline with FRC as far as playing ball goes BFBA make out they are representing the farriers interest, that's got to be a joke they are like a guard dog with no teeth and that makes them as useful as a chocolate fire guard, neither of ...
by Italian stallion
Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:39 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Are Frc for purpose
Replies: 126
Views: 10374

Re: Are Frc for purpose

Hi john, As regards the poor turn out of ATF's, can you blame them as in the past anything that has seemingly been agreed with has been randomly change without consulting the the ATF's, it's called having no trust in the WCF/FRC because at the end of the day it's them that will decide the final blue...
by Italian stallion
Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:01 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Are Frc for purpose
Replies: 126
Views: 10374

Re: Are Frc for purpose

What's changed, well were do we start, one the frc & nfta got there so called training system kicked into touch by ofstead, so much for there bravado in telling the world about having the best training system in the world. We then have frc tell us all that you must be an awcf to employ an appren...
by Italian stallion
Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:29 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Cautions & Convictions Notifications Eorm
Replies: 19
Views: 1486

Re: Cautions & Convictions Notifications Eorm

Whilst farriers are up in arms with this nonsense, I've heard nothing of BFBA doing anything for there members with this topic, it's pointless paying a membership to an association that does not help defends the rights of its members.
by Italian stallion
Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:35 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Cautions & Convictions Notifications Eorm
Replies: 19
Views: 1486

Re: Cautions & Convictions Notifications Eorm

I agree John, That will make two of us not signing, maybe we could go to FRC together and share the cost, but I'll tell you something John I've had someone go to a great deal of trouble to check the rights and wrongs legally about this rubbish that FRC are spouting, if push comes to shuff I'll happi...
by Italian stallion
Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:51 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Cautions & Convictions Notifications Eorm
Replies: 19
Views: 1486

Re: Cautions & Convictions Notifications Eorm

John, I've not missed your point, there's not a police force in the country that would cooperate with FRC unless there was an official complaint made against an individual farrier to them and solely them, FRC have no more power than you or me when going to the police and asking for information on so...
by Italian stallion
Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:22 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Cautions & Convictions Notifications Eorm
Replies: 19
Views: 1486

Re: Cautions & Convictions Notifications Eorm

John,
That's one mighty correct letter, may I add to your point that the FRC fail to recognise the fact that we are self employed farriers
They seem to think and behave as we are employed by them, I would be happy to comply if they would like to pay my wages.

Regards,
E.W.
by Italian stallion
Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:38 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: How much to ask for my business?
Replies: 2
Views: 488

Re: How much to ask for my business?

Hi jb, I see were your coming from, however your problem is you aren't selling a business, your actually selling the good will of your business and that can be worth nothing. If you have someone in mind sound them out and introduce them to some of your customers before doing any deals, at the end of...
by Italian stallion
Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:13 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC meeting 16 Dec 2015.
Replies: 30
Views: 2012

Re: FRC meeting 16 Dec 2015.

Pnb, I will gladly pose the question to him as he likes a Good laugh when it comes to FRC he calls them cowboy hill at Sefton house he can't believe they are still running. Ferrador, It's not just someone's salary that's the problem it's the fact that they can't do the job that they are paid for tha...
by Italian stallion
Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:33 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC meeting 16 Dec 2015.
Replies: 30
Views: 2012

Re: FRC meeting 16 Dec 2015.

My understanding is that if you have been absent for three meetings in a row then you would automatically be removed from council (FRC rule I believe) let's see if they stick to there on rules.

Regards,
E.W.
by Italian stallion
Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:31 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Disclosure policy for declaring cautions and convictions
Replies: 14
Views: 1386

Re: Disclosure policy for declaring cautions and convictions

When I first flagged this up It as most disappointing that more carriers hadn't voiced there view, there is no point being scared of FRC you need to stand up and be counted or you will be run over by a bunch of bloody clowns.
by Italian stallion
Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:42 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Disclosure policy for declaring cautions and convictions
Replies: 14
Views: 1386

Re: Disclosure policy for declaring cautions and convictions

csc,
At this stage I think we all need to be tipsy whilst having any sort of dealings we FRC there are turning into something of a pantomime wouldn't you say.

Regards,
E.W.

P.s
Merry Christmas to one and all.
by Italian stallion
Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:07 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Disclosure policy for declaring cautions and convictions
Replies: 14
Views: 1386

Re: Disclosure policy for declaring cautions and convictions

I'm still waiting on an answer from FRC! It's astonishing to consider that they expect farriers to reply to them by return post (imedetly) and with my enquiry nothing, just goes to show how professional they run FRC, my question was through a Rep so one would expect an answer within seven day at the...
by Italian stallion
Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:27 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Disclosure policy for declaring cautions and convictions
Replies: 14
Views: 1386

Re: Disclosure policy for declaring cautions and convictions

Pnb, Considering that Frc have failed to recognise the seriousness of this document and failed to reply I have taken this matter up with a solicitor. The facts are simple the only people that are allowed to carry out crb checks are employers or prospective employers and need your consent at all time...
by Italian stallion
Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:28 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Disclosure policy for declaring cautions and convictions
Replies: 14
Views: 1386

Disclosure policy for declaring cautions and convictions

I have read this document and must say It could have grave consequences on the individual if you sign the declaration, by all means as far as I see it you should disclose any convictions and cautions but there is no need to sign the declaration. Unless there is a legal requirement for you to sign th...
by Italian stallion
Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:25 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC to locate new apprentices 01/01/ 2016.Commenrs please.
Replies: 4
Views: 725

Re: FRC to locate new apprentices 01/01/ 2016.Commenrs pleas

Pub, The Frc are not the employer of any apprentice within the UK, they should not be asking for any payment of any kind, the colleges run all training so one would imagine that any payments should go to the colleges. This is the establishment refusing to let go and need to show that they have some ...
by Italian stallion
Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:07 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: NEW CHAIRMAN OF FRC
Replies: 9
Views: 1118

Re: NEW CHAIRMAN OF FRC

As to my above post it has been pointed out to me that I have been somewhat harsh on the chair of council with my remarks, by all accounts he's a good old chap and therefore I apologise for any offence I my have caused.
Regards.
E.W.
by Italian stallion
Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:41 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: NEW CHAIRMAN OF FRC
Replies: 9
Views: 1118

Re: NEW CHAIRMAN OF FRC

God, I wouldn't worry about chair of council by the photo I've seen time is not on his side, my late father would have said ( I think he's been dead seven years but has forgot to fall over)
by Italian stallion
Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:12 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: NEW CHAIRMAN OF FRC
Replies: 9
Views: 1118

Re: NEW CHAIRMAN OF FRC

csc, I totally agree with you there should be a democratic process in selecting and the voting in of a chairman to council and one of the criteria for that chairman to be put forward is they are already in line with the currant workings of farriery of 2015. This would mean we would prefer a ex farri...
by Italian stallion
Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:46 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Coke fumes and toxic gas poisoning, FRC obligatory requireme
Replies: 12
Views: 1210

Re: Coke fumes and toxic gas poisoning, FRC obligatory requi

Chris, that should say gas and coke forges.
Regards.
by Italian stallion
Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:27 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Coke fumes and toxic gas poisoning, FRC obligatory requireme
Replies: 12
Views: 1210

Re: Coke fumes and toxic gas poisoning, FRC obligatory requi

Chris, As a field officer in your day you and I both know that it was mandatory for the ATF to have a gas forge, you know very well that some of the premesis that housed these forges were not up to standard as far a ventilation was concerned, if myscough could have a student pass out through toxic f...
by Italian stallion
Fri May 22, 2015 5:21 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC 19th March 2015.
Replies: 19
Views: 1986

Re: FRC 19th March 2015.

Pnb, Are you telling us working farriers that you can't represent farriers at council. Farriers bulletin's back page clearly states southern area (employee) p n baker awcf this being the case I would suggest Frc put it in writing as to why they see a problem with any member of council representing t...
by Italian stallion
Thu May 14, 2015 4:49 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC 19th March 2015.
Replies: 19
Views: 1986

Re: FRC 19th March 2015.

Frc whistle blowing policy, lets not hold back lads now that you've been given the green light. :lol: :lol: :lol:
by Italian stallion
Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:04 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC 19th March 2015.
Replies: 19
Views: 1986

Re: FRC 19th March 2015.

the situation is the act was made in 1975 before the proceeding EU law came along . the FRC quite rightly have gone back to parliament and asked to change some items in the FRC act to bring it up to date whilst parliament is considering this then we are covered under European law. this is a point P...
by Italian stallion
Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:06 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC 19th March 2015.
Replies: 19
Views: 1986

Re: FRC 19th March 2015.

csc wrote:very accurate Peter keep up the good work


And to add to that thank you csc / pnb / Paul / Craig for truly representing the working farriers and asking the right questions and pushing for answers we've been waiting a long time to get enough honest men together keep the good work up.
by Italian stallion
Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:36 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC 19th March 2015.
Replies: 19
Views: 1986

Re: FRC 19th March 2015.

When HUW Dyer make remarks like that it just goes to show how out of touch he is with the craft, he might better serve us all by resigning his post.

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