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by cliff barnes
Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:46 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: PNB Resigns from FRC.
Replies: 125
Views: 15193

All It has been brought to my attention this morning that Peter has suggested that the BFBA's farriery focus day is oversubscribed this Saturday! I can assure you all that there is no limit to the numbers of Farriers that we can accommodate this weekend and look forward to seeing you all on Saturday...
by cliff barnes
Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:57 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: president's address forge mag feb 2011
Replies: 114
Views: 16370

All I stopped posting on this site not due to FLAK but due to personall insults from Peter and the fact that Peter would edit his postings after a response from others, thus giving misleading threads. As for abstaining from the vote that Stewart put forward.....well again I must point out to all on ...
by cliff barnes
Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:56 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: president's address forge mag feb 2011
Replies: 114
Views: 16370

All I stopped posting on this site not due to FLAK but due to personall insults from Peter and the fact that Peter would edit his postings after a response from others, thus giving misleading threads. As for abstaining from the vote that Stewart put forward.....well again I must point out to all on ...
by cliff barnes
Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:53 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: president's address forge mag feb 2011
Replies: 114
Views: 16370

Elgin I have said to you before and will say it again, there are two sides to all things if you wish to know mine you have the same right as any other farrier to discuss it with me! You have my number and it is available for all, as an FRC representitive and a BFBA EC member. Just in case you wish t...
by cliff barnes
Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:10 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: NAFBAE Farriery Focus Day
Replies: 12
Views: 3249

TIME FORGE LECTURE / PRSENTATION DEMONSTRATIONS / WORKSHOPS 8.30 – 10.00 Mustad Champion of Champions First Round TRADE FAIR Opens 9.00am 10.15 – 11.00 Haydn Price Farrier to the British Equestrian Federation Teams FINISH 10.45 Steven Beane Current World Champion FINISH 11.00 11.00 – 11.45 Professor...
by cliff barnes
Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:12 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: NAFBAE Farriery Focus Day
Replies: 12
Views: 3249

I will post more about speakers, Demos and competitors for the Champion of Champions competition later.
Cliff
by cliff barnes
Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:09 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: NAFBAE Farriery Focus Day
Replies: 12
Views: 3249

NAFBAE Farriery Focus Day

NAFBAE are holding a Farriery Focus Day at the Forge Stoneligh Park on Saturday 8th May. It is a free day open to all farriers. The day will consist of a mixture of lectures and demos with a trade fair. NAFBAE are also pleased to host a one off event on the same day, The Mustad Champion of Champions...
by cliff barnes
Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:40 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FTAC meeting
Replies: 20
Views: 4112

Peter I did propose a vote on the CARP issue that you had rasied. The subject was discussed further and was explianed to you further so that you had a better understanding that not only do the apprentices know what they are expected to have achieved before they return to college, but also each ATF i...
by cliff barnes
Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:32 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FTAC meeting
Replies: 20
Views: 4112

CSC
Many thanks for your response to Peter's post. It has saved me responding and I believe you give a much clearer response to the meeting than Peter has.
Cliff
by cliff barnes
Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:41 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

so much for us all taking a break for Easter!
by cliff barnes
Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:27 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Austin Powers (name not supplied)
with postings like your last one I would have to agree, with out Peter you would have nothing worth saying!
If I was (iam presuming your last post was aimed at at least me) an FRC/FTA "Brown noses" then I wouldnt waste my time and post on this site!
Cliff
by cliff barnes
Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:18 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Peter The reason for the qestions regarding FRC/FTA on the other posting site is I beleive you have put a spin on it! Does it ever occur to you that I might be aware of the conection between the FRC/FTA and that the questions are posted to give what I feel is a more balanced answer than your origina...
by cliff barnes
Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:32 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Peter/csc If you have ever filled in a survey in the last 10years you will know that they always give you a multible answer tick box. Now the answers you can respond with are never satisfactory due to the fact that every one has different opinions on things. the whole idea of giving you the choices ...
by cliff barnes
Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:12 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC approve that FTA and FRC must separate.
Replies: 15
Views: 4687

Peter
your quite right it was slightly different question from the first one. But as this goes onthe questions are evolving! is that permissable?
Cliff
by cliff barnes
Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:55 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC approve that FTA and FRC must separate.
Replies: 15
Views: 4687

Question 2: Where do the FTA get the 1.4 million from. This is a serious amount of money and has to be supplied by someone.

Cliff
by cliff barnes
Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:52 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Peter I dont wish to go over old ground. My gripe to the two postings that you put on the board before i complained are what I am talking about. You may well have altered the grammer on them but you also added two sentances to both postings after I had responded. 3 to the first one and the last sent...
by cliff barnes
Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:57 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

peter
did that happen to both the postings before my gripe comment?

They both changed after I had responded to them!
Cliff
by cliff barnes
Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:55 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Peter back to an old gripe of mine but please dont go back and edit your postings just put another one up it is most infuriating to answer one post only to go back and find you have edited or added to it. I CANT do this so niether should YOU
by cliff barnes
Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:52 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Peter

There is no need for it!

good debate just ended

Bye bye

cliff
by cliff barnes
Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:35 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Peter
So you know agree with Johns comments then?
Cliff
by cliff barnes
Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:33 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC approve that FTA and FRC must separate.
Replies: 15
Views: 4687

Re: FRC approve that FTA and FRC must separate.

Peter Can you explain your quote below then? Today at long last a formal motion was approved that a viability/feasibility study is to be undertake [by internal mechanisms, cost give/take £10k] to separate the very fat dependent baby FTA [£1.4 million PA], from its tiny long suffering mother FRC [£30...
by cliff barnes
Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:52 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Peter I think private is possibly the wrong word as the frc meetings are open to the public. But they cannot be changed by posting about them on any web forum, you can bring your ideas and opinions to the masses here and you can listen to there views, but lets face it the half a dozen who post views...
by cliff barnes
Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:21 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Craig Regarding the polo grooms, I was informed by our registra that they have relaxed the situation on grooms working for just one employer. So that while they are here on a temporary basis that they can shoe without the need to be signed up under an ATF! How the hell this can be classed as working...
by cliff barnes
Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:17 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Peter
you have read Johns posting differently to me, in what way did he suggest we should take things laying down?
Cliff
by cliff barnes
Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:14 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC approve that FTA and FRC must separate.
Replies: 15
Views: 4687

Ok Peter
I wish to keep this open for all to see so I will ask one question at a time.

1: where do the FRC get £1.7 million from?

Cliff
by cliff barnes
Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:37 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Temporary means 6 months and they are supposed by law to contact the frc to let them know that they are shoeing here. jb if you come across one of these guys contact your frc and give them name and details. WE have to help the frc on this score. if all you do is bitch about it on here they will keep...
by cliff barnes
Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:26 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FRC approve that FTA and FRC must separate.
Replies: 15
Views: 4687

peter can you answer some questions? if the fesability study comes up with the conclusion that frc and fta seperate: a) what will frc do withe 1.4 million you say that they support thr fta with? b) where will the fta get the 1.4 million from in the future to train our apprentices? c) where does frc ...
by cliff barnes
Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:23 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

Jb by saying that I am not sitting back and letting this happens means that I am one of a very few who are activley going out there to find out what is going on (not listening to hear say) and trying to help get this right for our farriery community. csc knows how active I am and Iam not sitting on ...
by cliff barnes
Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:02 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

CSC I am under no illusion that these guys will not even attempt to register, I am also aware of the lack of control that frc have on that score or what seems on the street to be a lack of concern in that area. As for your last sentance its up to Farriers, what the hell do you think I am trying to d...
by cliff barnes
Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:15 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: euro "farriers"
Replies: 117
Views: 27099

jb This is what part 5 of the rgister is being introduced for. It is not to allow under qualified farriers in to the uk without having the correct level of abilities. And YES we do have a say and YES the EU constition allows any EU country to set thier own requirment levels, hence why the part 5. Th...
by cliff barnes
Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:34 pm
Forum: farriers - contact your FRC rep
Topic: TAC, 5th March 2008. Initial report.
Replies: 16
Views: 7022

Stuart I haven't heard of any one poaching an apprentice just because they are a good 2/3year. I would like to think that my own apprentices would discuss this with me if it were to happen, and frankly I would scream and shout about such an injustice if it were to take place. The culprits would be a...
by cliff barnes
Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:58 pm
Forum: farriers - contact your FRC rep
Topic: TAC, 5th March 2008. Initial report.
Replies: 16
Views: 7022

Peter I understand completly what you asked for and what the chair agreed to. The Chair agreed to you personally writing a paper that could be put forward to the comittee. At no point apart from your own mouth did the chair agree that you could form a group to write the paper. Cliff Craig I have had...
by cliff barnes
Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:00 am
Forum: farriers - contact your FRC rep
Topic: TAC, 5th March 2008. Initial report.
Replies: 16
Views: 7022

Dear Peter It seems you heard differnetly to me regarding your push to form a group for this paper, my personal view and the views I heard around the table were if YOU wish to write a report then the TAC would read through it when you submit YOUR paper. Every thing else seemed to be resolved one way...
by cliff barnes
Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:16 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: sales to unregistered farriers
Replies: 14
Views: 5375

just to clarify it is illegal to shoe for gain if you are not on part one of the register.
and every company has the right to advertise, what i was suggesting is that they advertise differently depending on if that person is registered..!
by cliff barnes
Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:18 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: sales to unregistered farriers
Replies: 14
Views: 5375

unfortunatley if the fta are approached for a list of farriers and apprentices they will sell them on. The majority of comapnys will do this with any database they hold, there is always that litlle box to leave blank or tick if you do not wish to have your details passed on. the fta at present do no...
by cliff barnes
Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:03 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: DE-REGULATED FARIERY FOR THE UK. (and you cant stop it!!)
Replies: 16
Views: 5608

John As I am sure you are aware that although the forge magazine is NAFBAE's magazine it is sent out to every qualified farrier in the uk regardless of thier NAFBAE status. It is run as a commercial product through Newton Mann publishers. Although NAFBAE have a certain amount of space to do things l...
by cliff barnes
Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:29 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FTA [TAC] meeting, 5th March 2008.
Replies: 26
Views: 7236

Austin No one is suggesting that a lecture or poster can teach you that horses are unpredictable. Every Farrier across the world will tell you that this is an unpredictable and possibly very dangerous job, we all can tell stories of injured colleagues and clients, but still we get up every day and d...
by cliff barnes
Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:37 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Amersham cruelty case
Replies: 24
Views: 7529

The demenor of the owner, if aggressive and threating would make it easier for the RSPCA to call in the police, which then would have given them the power to act quicker.
by cliff barnes
Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:31 pm
Forum: farriers - contact your FRC rep
Topic: csc contact details
Replies: 0
Views: 2772

csc contact details

Hi csc

would you forward your e-mail address to me

thanks cliff
cliff.barnes@btinternet.com
by cliff barnes
Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:26 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: "the British system doesn't work"
Replies: 23
Views: 7955

It seems to me that paul fell foul of the one thing that all prospective apprentices usually come across at some point in thier search for the ellusive Diploma... Finding an ATF prepared to take them on, and the generall apathy and rudeness to even respond to apprentice applications. I am not one to...
by cliff barnes
Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:09 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: A UKHSU living idea.
Replies: 21
Views: 8141

peter Just loading up the demo on yugma. Ill try it out with you. all this internet ideas for cpd are interesting but how are you going to prove that anyone has actually read/seen or participated in any online cpd. Also we all know that computers and emailing has taken off but there are some people ...
by cliff barnes
Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:17 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: FARRIERY TRAINING THE FUTURE
Replies: 10
Views: 3940

HEALTH & SAFTEY I help run Newbury show and we encourage all competitors to wear saftey specs.... It is printed on all the schedules we send out. It is still up to the individuall to accept reasonable care, so you can only advise and encourage... Austin when you go to burn down FTA please make ...
by cliff barnes
Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:57 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Thursdays get together. NAFBAE. Stuart Craig.
Replies: 22
Views: 7665

All At the end of the day an atf -can only encourage and assist in the training of any apprentice, if that apprentice is not prepared to put the work in at home or the forge in their own time as well as the atfs, then the simple fact is that they are likely to be back tracked. It has to be a team ef...
by cliff barnes
Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:55 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Thursdays get together. NAFBAE. Stuart Craig.
Replies: 22
Views: 7665

Peter Just to clarify before Iam taken out of contect. I have one apprentice at Hereford and one at Warwickshire, I also have spoken to atf's with apprentices at other colleges, in fact the conversation we had regarding the colleges and possible flaws was in front of an apprentice who attends Myersc...
by cliff barnes
Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:24 pm
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: tapping stud holes with power tools
Replies: 12
Views: 5644

you know you can buy the drill from stromsholm without the stand....?
it is at the end of the day just a hand drill with a specific chuck. You can buy a stand from machine mart for about £40. not sure how much the drill is just on its own...?
Cliff
by cliff barnes
Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:50 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: Anvils Stolen Newbury Showground
Replies: 2
Views: 2021

If any does have any info could you please ring me on 07850971299
Cliff
by cliff barnes
Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:50 am
Forum: farriers - contact your FRC rep
Topic: Farrier Communication Network. Please join up.
Replies: 20
Views: 10803

hi John
Hope you are well and enjoying life to the full
Cliff
by cliff barnes
Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:40 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: tapping stud holes with power tools
Replies: 12
Views: 5644

punch the hole then drill it to size and you will find it a lot easier to tap as well.
The only reason i got the drill was because i was shoeing 150 polo ponies and taping that many shoes takes too long. i got to the pub 30 minuets sooner...
by cliff barnes
Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:57 am
Forum: farriers - contact your FRC rep
Topic: Farrier Communication Network. Please join up.
Replies: 20
Views: 10803

pnb I have no fear of the FRC. It is after all a free country (just) the FRC should be seen as an aid to any farrier who needs their help and support, but if you have been a naughty boy and a slap on the wrist is what is needed then thats the rules we play by in this country. Peter please dont turn ...
by cliff barnes
Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:47 am
Forum: farriers discussion board
Topic: tapping stud holes with power tools
Replies: 12
Views: 5644

I doubt it will be man enough for the job, my 24.5 struggles.
Cliff

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