RENEWAL OF APPROVED TRAINING FARRIER CERTIFICATION

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RENEWAL OF APPROVED TRAINING FARRIER CERTIFICATION

Postby C.S.Craig » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:01 pm

TODAY I RECIEVED A LETTER FROM M.W.M. REGARDING THE L11 COURSE, QUOTE 2 L11 COURSE any a.t.f . not already holding the l11 or equivalent will be expected to obtain the qualification by jan 2009 if he/she wishes to continue training. also all a.t.f.s must complete the shoemaking assessment by 1 jan 2009.the current arrangements for c.r.b. CRIMINAL RECORD BUREAU checks for new and existing a.t.f.s. will continue until further notice
CAN ANYONE ENLIGHTEN ME ON ANY OF THESE POINTS AND THERE VIEWS ESPECIALLY ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THEM.

Press office

Postby Press office » Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:57 am

FRC's view of what is thought to be the way forwards after the meeting on the 25th August 2004. This observer feels FRC have totally missed the point of what the craft / ATF's are saying.

THERE IS AN EXTRA ORDINARY MEETING OF FRC WEDNESDAY EVENING NEXT IN LONDON TO ATTEMPT TO RESOLVE THE CRB CHECKS ISSUE, ITS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT WILL BE NICE IF THE CRAFT COME ON MASS TO SHOW COUNCIL HOW CHEESED OFF WE ARE.

Contact admin@ukhsu.com if you have any comments you wish UKHSU to hand to our elected members on council for this meeting.

The official view:-

Quote "RENEWAL OF APPROVED TRAINING FARRIER CERTIFICATION

This letter tells you of important changes in the requirements for ATF Certification. These have been made by the Farriers Registration Council (Council) as a result of concerns expressed and arguments put at an open meeting on 25th August 2004, chaired by the Chairman of the Joint Farriery Training Committee (JFTC), to which you and all other ATFs were invited. Views expressed at this meeting were considered by the JFTC at its meeting on 15 September, and recommendations were then made to Council and considered at its meeting on 11 November. Following extensive debate at a meeting open to the public, Council came to a number of conclusions and the staff have been instructed to put them into effect immediately. The main concerns and the Council's response to them are summarised below. (Decisions are in bold type).

Underperforming ATFs
The concern was that the requirement that all ATFs had to take the L11 Course (Enable Training through Demonstrations and Instruction) and pass a shoemaking test before they proposed their next apprentice penalised good ATFs instead of the minority of ATFs who were underperforming.

1. Underperforming ATFs. The JFTC and FTS staff will work together to develop ways of identifying underperforming ATFs. The measures should be evidence based and should take into account factors such as apprentices referred from college for failing assessments, apprentices back-coursed, field officer and college reports etc. If you have any suggestions as to how these measures could be developed please let Colin Gregg know as soon as possible. Existing ATFs will not now be required to take the L11 or the shoemaking test before proposing a new apprentice. They may be required to do so if they are identified as underperforming, and will have to do so before 1 January 2009 (see below).

Ten year validity of ATF Certificate
The concern was that the requirement to take the L11 and shoe making tests effectively curtailed the 10 year validity of the ATF Certificate to 6yrs.

2. L11 Course. The L11 course is considered to be important continuing professional development (CPD) for ATFs. Feedback from those who have already attended the course, including some very experienced ATFs, is that they found it useful or very useful. Council nevertheless accepted that the immediacy of the requirement could cause problems for existing ATFs. It was therefore decided that any ATF not already holding the L11 or equivalent will be expected to obtain the qualification by 1 January 2009 if he/she wishes to continue training. This gives 4 years’ notice and is based on 10 years from when the ATF Certificate was first introduced. Those who have a comparable recognised teaching or coaching qualification such as an Armed Forces Instructional Techniques Course, or the Certificate in Education will be exempted, but this does not apply to assessor qualifications such as the D32 or A1 which are different in nature.

3. Shoemaking Assessment. The old ATF Course did not call for a standard of shoemaking any better than making a shoe that was safe to fit to a horse. Council feels that those who are teaching apprentices to pass the NVQ and the DipWCF need to be able to make shoes to a higher standard than this, and so introduced the requirement to be able to make one fire-forged _ fullered straight bar shoe and one fullered concave hunter shoe in 1 hour 30 minutes. Arguments that farriers holding higher level qualifications should be exempted were considered, but were countered by arguments that such qualifications could have been acquired many years ago and in such cases standards might not have been maintained. Furthermore there are many farriers who can make shoes to the highest standards but who do not hold the higher level qualifications. As a result, Council decided that all ATFs must complete the shoemaking assessment by 1 January 2009 at the latest. In order to minimise time away from work and the costs involved, the shoemaking assessments will be run in the afternoon of the second day of the FRC arranged L11 Courses.

Dates for ATF and L11 courses, and for shoemaking assessments are published in each issue of the Farriers Bulletin, the next issue of which is due out shortly.

Although you now have 4 years in which to complete the additional requirements, Council would urge you to fulfil them as soon as possible. The sooner you complete the L11, the sooner you will benefit from its teaching, and not all ATFs will be able to take all the tests in the last few months of 2008. Do not forget that the L11 Course counts as CPD and under current arrangements existing ATFs can be refunded half the cost of the course, whether they take it through the FRC or through a private training provider.

Criminal Record Bureau (CRB) Checks

There was a long discussion at the Council Meeting about whether CRB checks should be required for all farriers, for ATFs only, or for no farriers. The Council's legal adviser, Judith Chrystie, was present and gave helpful advice. In particular, it was made clear that there is no legal requirement for CRB checks to be made; that only the Disciplinary Committee has the power to decide, in any individual case, whether a criminal conviction of any kind should lead to removal of a farrier from the Register; and that the Council itself has no power to fetter the discretion of the Disciplinary Committee. The discussion raised a number of supplementary issues on which further thought was needed. A special meeting of Council to discuss only CRB issues has therefore been convened for 6:30pm on Wednesday 15 December 2004 at 128 Piccadilly, London. This meeting will be open to members of the public but if you wish to attend it is essential that you contact the offices of the FRC beforehand to arrange admission.

The current arrangements for CRB checks for new and existing ATFs will continue until further notice.

I am sorry that it was not possible to resolve all the outstanding issues on 11th November but I hope you will understand that this is because Council is very anxious to ensure that it reaches the right decisions rather than the fastest ones. If you have any queries about the above requirements, or want to ask about possible exemptions, please feel free to telephone the Assistant Registrar, Felicity Heather, and ask for guidance.

Yours sincerely

S M D Williamson-Noble
Registrar"

Posted from the UKHSU press office, taken from the NAFBAE web site, with gratitude


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